控制的极限

悬疑片西班牙2009

主演:伊萨赫·德·班克尔,蒂尔达·斯文顿,盖尔·加西亚·贝纳尔,约翰·赫特,比尔·默瑞

导演:吉姆·贾木许

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详细剧情

故事的主角是一个沉默的独行杀手(IsaachDeBankolé饰),他永远只点两杯咖啡,在无聊的时候练习太极,不为任何诱惑所动。某日,他接受一项神秘的任务,随后启程前往西班牙马德里。在这里他必须和一个又一个联系人作单线联系,而联系的凭证便是红色或绿色的火柴盒。这些联系人中,有谨小慎微但热爱音乐的中年男子(路伊斯·托沙LuisTosar饰),有打扮出众钟爱电影的白衣女子(蒂尔达·斯维顿TildaSwinton饰),有醉心波希米亚文化的老人(约翰·赫特JohnHurt饰),更有沉迷分子学的神秘东方女性(工藤夕贵饰)。按照他们的指引,杀手一步步逼近了他的目标……

 长篇影评

 1 ) 像一部小说

影片讲了一个杀手的任务之旅,充满诗意。依然是反戏剧性的设计。当迷幻喜剧片看的话就挺不错。基本就是讲这个杀手和一个又一个的人接头的过程,最终杀掉目标,然后踏上下一段任务之旅。

这部影片有非常重的后面《唯爱永生》、《帕特森》甚至是《丧尸未至》的影子。但想讲的可能跟这三部比都少多了。感觉像是在实验用影像配合迷幻乐表达那些感受。但真的很棒。比如几次主角看画、一次下地铁与一个坐着的老人对视、喝咖啡的时候看路人等。充满诗意…(这种表达也在后面《帕特森》里达到一种顶峰)

配乐上非常像唯爱永生,用了大量小调五声的迷幻乐,以吉他为主。用法也和唯爱永生的相似。加强人物感受的张力,非常有贾木许的风格,特别喜欢。

摄影上也像唯爱永生,但不得不说和唯爱永生比差多了。这部影片和早期的也挺不同,开始用了不少特写。但个人感觉确实差点意思,感觉像是后面风格的萌芽阶段。

 2 ) 兩杯espresso不等於一杯double espresso

Jarmusch的這本片子,在我看來,是一則寓言,也猶如一樁禪宗公案。

刺客,深居簡出。
日復一日,喝著同樣的兩杯espresso, 聽著陌生人同樣的對話,交換火柴盒和點滴訊息,然後繼續上路。日子如同他每日修煉的太極短式,平淡枯寂,波瀾不驚。念一句阿彌陀佛,也就隨遇而安。

終於一日,風起,劍出鞘。

人生,其實亦如是。從一地到另一地,看似簡單重複,而動物本能般收取過濾相關信息,有時蜇伏,有時躍起,有時轉向,回頭看樣樣自有真意。

它像一列你偶爾登上的火車,不知沿途風景如何,你只有繼續,行至雲深水窮。接近內核的時候,一切會瞬間透徹澄明。

Jarmusch這本片子,也是對王家衛的致敬。經歷風塵滄桑的杜可風,鏡頭運用得隱忍而流暢。Boris的音樂。那一小段掠去人靈魂的flamengo。

“要參透人生真諦,那麼去看墓地。到最後一日,我們都是一小捧塵埃。”

等著看今晚記錄此片拍攝幕後的紀錄片"Behind Jarmusch", Léa Rinaldi在Sevilla跟班拍了三天。

 3 ) 这部电影是贾木许对他之前所有电影的一个概括总结,怎么就值6.8?!

每当在与人相处时遇到麻烦,不知如何处理,我就会翻出贾木许的电影来重温一下,学习他是怎样待人接物的。因为看贾木许的电影,总能为我开拓出更多人际交往的可能,比如:

你我彼此讨厌,却不耽误我们成为朋友;
你我谁都不理解谁,但我们可以祝福彼此;
我对你如此之好,但如果你不接受我的好意,甚至你恨我我也觉得OK……
“人们到底有哪些交往的模式?我可不可以开拓出更多?”我觉得这就是贾木许的人生课题。下面会选取他的几部代表作品来加以说明。

《不法之徒》
《不法之徒》,它刺激的片名下其实是个温情的故事。Zack和Jack两个倒霉鬼因为遭人陷害在同一天被关进了同一间牢房,他们性格不合,互相看不顺眼,却也无可奈何地一同经历了越狱、互帮互助、最后各自走入新生活的重要时光。

在影片最后,Zack和Jack在岔道口分手,他们直到这一刻还在互黑彼此的穿着,连一个简单的握手都做不到,但Zack和Jack是朋友吗?当然!虽然是那个一回想起来就让你骂脏话的朋友。
我讨厌你,你不喜欢我,我们却有缘分一起度过人生重要的时光,也不耽误我们成为朋友,说的就是这两人。
分叉路口的Zack和Jack

《地球之夜》
五名散落在世界各地的出租车司机,在这一晚都载到了一位与自己格格不入的乘客。

选角导演自认为所有女孩儿都希望当上大明星,女孩儿却拒绝了她的好意,说自己只想当个修车师傅;
潮流男孩儿遇到刚进城的乡巴佬,他们年龄不同、文化不同、语言还不通,但都给到对方片刻温暖;
黑人小伙儿好奇地向盲人姑娘问东问西,并无意冒犯却使得姑娘反感。他见姑娘补妆为姑娘开灯,被姑娘认为多此一举,他为姑娘减少路费,原本49的车钱只收40,被姑娘认作是一种怜悯。好像在这一晚小伙子做什么说什么都是错的,但这又有何妨,告别时他还是诚心诚意地叮嘱姑娘要注意安全;
飞车党司机搭载上一位患心脏病的神父,他崇拜神父,很认真地一定要在车里向神父告解,神父却吃不消他的车技,最终昏死在了车里;
醉鬼和出租车司机一开始剑拔弩张,谁也不理解谁,却在诉说完各自悲惨的人生经历后和解了。

我实在搞不懂你在想什么,你当然也可以搞不懂我。你我谁都不理解谁,但我们至少可以彼此祝福。这就是《地球之夜》五个小故事的共同主题。
总也对不上号的黑人小伙儿和盲人姑娘

《破碎之花》

这个故事讲的是年老的花花公子因突发事件不得不去拜访他年轻时的风流对象们。这些女人有的对他余情未了、有的对他心怀恨意、有的对他若即若离,有的对他高冷疏离,但无论她们变成怎样,男主这一趟怀旧之旅再也给不了他当初的感觉,旧时光的美好滤镜被一一打碎。

贾木许的这部电影之所以叫《破碎之花》,一个角度的破碎是美人不再,旧梦难以重温,但我觉得还有另一个角度的破碎是男主本人的破碎,就是说当男主寻找这些旧爱时,虽然夹杂私心,但态度是真诚无恶意的,可他的这份真诚无恶意并没被旧爱们看见,旧爱们对男主的态度大多是冷漠无情的,更有甚者大打出手。

所以《破碎之花》讲的不再是温情故事,它主打一个真心被错待。我对你如此真诚,但如果你不愿接受,甚至你还会恨我,我也无可奈何。男人的善意被女人误解成恶意,这种无奈不止一次出现在贾木许的电影里,《破碎之花》算是对这一情节最全面、正式的梳理。
破碎的是迟暮的情人们,也是男主自己

贾木许还有一部很不温情的电影,这部片子的主题甚至都不是真心被错待,而是——我欣赏你,我爱你,但这并不耽误我杀死你。它就是《唯爱永生》。

《唯爱永生》
《唯爱永生》全片用了99%的内容来用力讲述了两个吸血鬼对人类文明的热爱。贾木许对音乐、阅读、建筑的好品味,也被尽数体现在了这部电影里。但让人意想不到的是到了电影结尾处,这两个高阶文艺吸血鬼,他们比人类本身还更热爱人类的精神,在本能驱动下不堪一击,饥肠辘辘的两只毫不犹豫就把利爪伸向了他们最钟爱的人类,也是很讽刺了。
老贾的音乐品味真的绝

所以总体看来,贾木许拓展出了多少种人际交往的模式呢?

我讨厌你,但也可以和你成为朋友;

我爱你,但也不耽误我把你杀了;

我不理解你,但我愿意祝福你;

我对你有感情,但你可以不喜欢,也可以不接受。

我看贾木许的电影,觉得他一直在教我松弛。有一个声音会告诉我说,与人交往的奥义就是允许对方做任何事,他做任何事都不要觉得奇怪,因为他是人不是神。一旦你给对方设限了,就是你在尝试控制人性,人性怎么可能被控制?一个尝试控制自己的人性和别人的人性的人,他是交不到真朋友的。

我觉得这和我之前接受的教育很不一样,哪里不一样呢?顺序不一样。贾木许先允许我做人,我做人做得不错,心境就越来越宽容,最后宽容到有点接近神。而之前我被教育的都是不能做人,必须抑制自己的人性去成为神。“滴水之恩当涌泉相报”、“厚往薄来”、“孔融让梨”、“君子之交淡如水”,在我们的体系里存在着各种能让你迅速成神的“咒语”。但现在我会去想,这样硬凹成的拥有神的外壳的神,都没允许自我成长就速成为神的神,他们是真神吗?

最后,贾木许的《控制的极限》可以看一看,这是他“人际关系多样性”这条逻辑线上的里程碑。故事还是那个故事——人遇见人,但人也不再是人,男主遇见的每个人都代表一种灵性的思考,他们分别是音乐、电影、科学、舞蹈、建筑、性爱……,男主,这个把自己控制到极限的异常紧绷的人,在与这些灵性思考相处的过程中,渐渐学会松弛,终于放下了对自我控制。

贾木许真的教会了我怎样处理人际关系,怎样放下对错,放下控制,当我被允许做一个人,我周围的人也可以安心去做人,我们就都松弛下来了。

 4 ) 我不想谈让人头大的隐喻有多深刻

“当我来到无法渡过的河流,
我感到再也没人能指导我如何前进了——兰波”
看贾木许的《控制的极限》。一部西班牙风光片+伪犯罪+伪悬疑+伪情色片,你把它当作任何一种类型片来看都会觉得索然无味。
我不想谈让人头大的隐喻有多深刻,使命与剧情一样毫无意义,只有那些闲扯才是生命的本质,那些音乐、电影、科学、波西米亚、致幻剂……

 5 ) FILM OF THE WEEK (AND INTERVIEW

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May 1, 2009


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FILM OF THE WEEK (AND INTERVIEW): The Limits of Control
Jim Jarmusch, THE LIMITS OF CONTROL Who knew that a Jim Jarmusch film could be the most divisive of the year thus far? I'm not ready to address The Limits of Control and all the knee-jerk, unconstructive naysayings I've read that don't actually engage with what the film is or how it does (or doesn't) work, at least until I see it a second time, since I was too mesmerized by the experience to take many notes. In lieu of that, I present to you the extended version of an interview I did with Jarmusch for IFC.com, the first part of which can be found here.

GREENCINE DAILY: Wong Kar-Wai once told me that when working with cinematographer Christopher Doyle, they share a largely unspoken, instinctual shorthand with one another. Was your relationship with Doyle similar?

JIM JARMUSCH: We were more the opposite, man. We talked and talked and talked incessantly. When I was preparing, he would come to New York for a week and a half at a time, maybe three times. We spent every day together for eight hours, just talking about the film, not about the film, about things we saw on the street, about photographs Chris had taken, looking at unrelated things, and listening to music. I've known Chris quite a long time, 12 or 15 years. I love just talking to him about anything. He's very quick, so sometimes he'll say things to me, philosophical things we're discussing that I don't understand what his point is, and then a few days later when I'm not with him, I'll be thinking it over and be like, "Oh! I see what he meant." I don't know if I'm just slow, or if his ideas are hard to enter sometimes.

Isaach De Bankolé, THE LIMITS OF CONTROL Speaking of music, I'm a big Boris fan, who is all over the soundtrack. I read that you had already planned to fill the film with this conceptual Japanese noise-rock while still sketching it out. What's your process of matching image to music?

When I'm writing or trying to think up an idea for a film, I hone in on music that seems to open up my imagination for that particular world in my head. That happens very early over and over, like Neil Young for Dead Man, or [for Ghost Dog,] RZA's beats and instrumental tracks on the B-sides of vinyl Wu-Tang stuff I was collecting. Or Mulatu Astatge in Broken Flowers was inspiring me, and I was like, "How the hell do I get Ethiopian music in a film about a guy in the suburbs?" So then it led me to have Jeffrey Wright's character be of Ethiopian origin. In this case, it was Boris and Sunn 0))), and that electric feedback-y soundscape stuff they make that I love so much. Those things came very early, while I was even just writing the 25-page treatment—well, it was more like a prose short story that we started from. So they were sort of in a little boat I was in, going down the river. I had them inspiring me. Then I got Earth in the movie and a lot of great stuff. I love the Black Angels, but I only used a little instrumental piece at the end of their song, "You on the Run." Anyway, those things were there very early, but the music always leads me. That's always happened.

Tilda Swinton, on the set of THE LIMITS OF CONTROLI stay abreast of new music by geeking out on music blogs, but how do you find all this cool music? Do you still go to a lot of record stores, or do friends keep you tuned in to new artists?

I'm not a Web guy because I don't have a computer, although I often ask people to look stuff up for me. I don't know, it's sort of a general antenna because I love music. You know, there are music stores that in the past I depended on a lot, like Final Vinyl, that used to be great to order things anywhere in the world that were in print, or what's his name, that little shop on Bowery just south of 8th street. Damn, I love that guy. He's always been really cool. There's Other Music, and in New Paltz, there's Rhino Records that is really run unlike any kind of Rhino chain—the guy there, Rick, is amazing. Those record stores are important, but they've been less so for me recently, maybe because I haven't stopped in very much. I always read the British music press, and I try to listen to what underground radio exists, or college-type radio. I'm just always scanning, and I've always been that way, like, music, music, music. I love to get playlists off of [Jersey City's] WFMU or WVKR in Poughkeepsie—Vassar has a good radio station. WFUV has a good morning show in New York, and there's some underground hip-hop shows on WKCR, the Columbia station. There's the beautiful Sunday morning country shows that I listen to, classic country.

I love radio, and I love finding things randomly. Like, I don't have TiVO for TV because I keep thinking, "Well, then I'll just program everything and I won't scan," and scanning is when you find things you weren't expecting. Not that TV isn't, for the most part, a big wasteland of garbage. But you do learn things if you scan around, more than if you have a programmed idea of what you're going to watch. I don't watch that much TV. I watch Turner Classic Movies, science shows and Antiques Roadshow, you know this one? I love Antiques Roadshow. I have this thing I always imagine. Okay, they think suddenly, they have some vase and it's worth $8,000, you know? I always equate it to: what kind of a used car could they buy with it? [Jarmusch makes a sad horn noise] "You can buy a 1986 Honda Civic!" I don't know why I do that... I'm going off in stupid places.

Bill Murray, surrogate Dick Cheney No, I appreciate it. Now, I know why Bill Murray is so great in your films, but what's so great about working with him? In the press notes for this film, you mentioned that you two liked to "talk around the character."

Yeah, we like to talk about it in the past. What's really fascinating about Bill is that, since I've known him, his procedure is always evolving. When I first worked with him in Coffee and Cigarettes, he wanted to pretty much improvise everything, and he didn't want to talk about it or rehearse it. Then with Broken Flowers, no rehearsing, no specifics, but we would take long, long walks for hours at a time, and talk about things that eventually affected our idea of that character. I thought he would improvise a lot, and he said, "I want to stick close to the script." Then in this film, he said, "I want to rehearse, and I want to do the dialogue as written. I don't want to add anything." So that was even a different step. He's just an interesting work in progress. I'm always a little surprised, like, "How does he want to approach it this time?"

That's fun, and I learn a lot from Bill about a lot of things, especially human nature. His capacity to observe and feel what people are feeling, even strangers, is uncanny. I've seen him numerous times run out of his way to help somebody try to get something out of the trunk of their car, or help with their luggage at the airport, or in a restaurant, talk to someone he doesn't even know that looks sort of down. He'll go over and respond to that: "Hey, the world hasn't ended yet, what's going on?" Amazing. He's really observant with compassion, so I love to just hang out with Bill and see how he's going to react to what we encounter in the world. I learn more from that, maybe, than anything specifically about acting, preparing or filmmaking, because it's all intertwined in the end. I really liked having him play somebody with not an ounce of humor this time, which might be frustrating for people's expectations. I don't know, that's not my problem. I choose the actors I want for the best collaboration to create something, and I really liked him being nasty and condescending. Every fucking school principal or authority figure I've ever had in my life has always, at some point, said, "You just don't understand how the world really works." Hearing Bill's character say those lines for me, I don't know. I certainly heard that a lot in my life.

The Limits of Control opens today in New York and Los Angeles, then expands to more cities beginning May 8. For more information, visit the official website.

 6 ) 不是虚望,便是虚无

这是一部反现代化的电影。黑人主人公崇尚东方的太极,不喜欢用手机,用吉他弦作为凶器,永远住在破旧的老房子里,火柴盒是他和同伴联络的媒介。最后,主人公杀死了那个自诩控制了世界的冰冷而森严的大人物,似乎宣告了反抗力量依然存在,以及对现代化的质疑。
音乐,电影,科学,和幻觉分段出现,被描述成一种与这个世界更本质的联系。主人公在漫长的蓄力,以期待最后一击。
这是一个类似于放弃理解真实世界的可能性,并寻求虚无的想象力统治世界的过程。所有的对话是电影的中心,多次出现了被布包住的画,生命是尘土,而世界是不可知的。只有想象力才能自我拯救。
最后,认为能控制世界固然是一种很愚蠢的思路,但认为能够夺回这种控制权同样的简单粗暴,哪怕有虚无主义做武器。
从完全控制到无可控制,现代化只是一个牺牲品,再一次证明了我们的无知。
被虚无主义征服了的现代化,就是后现代。

 7 ) 控制的极限 --> 冲破控制 -->选择和行动

《控制的极限》才是原意的合适翻译

与其说片子整体在虚幻和现实交织 不如说整个片子都是落在虚幻的时间或臆想的空间

是思想的争斗或生活的选择
主角的两杯咖啡表现着 主角对争论结果确定的渴望 但是每当有人想要喝另一杯咖啡 总是被主角的态度制止了 说明他还不能接受这样的观点 他还要继续争斗哪个才是正确的

最终的杀人任务 是一个强迫的结果 是一个现实 不管你的选择有多么艰难 现实生活过程中你必须选择一个方向 否则你只能停步不前

结尾不表明哪个选择占了上风 只是表明无论多艰难的选择 你还是一定要选择 不断的衡量和思想争斗在行动面前显得并不是最重要了 选择了你才能向前走 才知道到底是对是错 和行动相比较 思想争论和结果的对错都显得微不足道了 主角最后脱下正装 换上便装 也是这种情绪解脱一种表现

片子的主题表现大概是生命中的一种常态现象 控制的极限就是要突破这种仅是停留在思想争论控制阶段 只有行动才是能让生命继续前进的真实动力 生命的意义在于实践的过程

这点主题导演倒是做到了 不过表现的手法上显得有些生硬和单调 荒诞的情节和对话只是想表现思想斗争的复杂 这点让我觉得满遗憾的

 

 短评

杀手咖啡喝了一路,纸条也吃了一路.,听了一路艺术讲座.

7分钟前
  • 麻木斯基
  • 还行

正合口味

10分钟前
  • 三角形的办公室
  • 推荐

眼睛女的乳房不对称

14分钟前
  • 东门
  • 还行

我睡着了

16分钟前
  • litter良
  • 较差

很多做作 有趣 周而复始的片段。"你会讲西班牙语吗?" "两杯espresso 分两杯装" 国家艺术博物馆。。。。讲不出好坏,但是我看的很开心。而且最令人惊喜的是,男主的神游的时候我也莫名的在神游,所以所有干涩沉默的片段我都直接跳过了。。。

18分钟前
  • Miss桃樂絲
  • 推荐

不知所云,但却居然很舒服。整体情绪和结构,被控制得如一首处处冲突密集而不发轫的Ambient Doom。算是贾木许在展现自己的太极修炼。

21分钟前
  • seamouse
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沉闷

23分钟前
  • 麦子
  • 较差

保持沉默 抬高鼻孔 拒绝枪炮手机 坚持太极 坚持两杯咖啡 一杯品味另一杯来消灭交际 如此修炼必能突破极限 享受生命的虚无轻佻!

28分钟前
  • 翠西 。o 0 O
  • 力荐

Spectacular! He knew how to control the pace and he knew when to push the limit。。。冷艳从容

29分钟前
  • k-pax
  • 力荐

“自认为比别人都大的家伙一定要去墓地,在那里他将懂得什么是真实的世界!”……贾木许说此舞入影纯属巧合。通过与女舞者聊天得知,她专门表演一种太极式的弗拉门戈,全是手部的慢动作,叫做贝特涅拉斯,由于历史厄运等缘故,算是弗拉门戈音乐家们的某种禁忌,所以都不太爱去表演。此舞多以死亡和爱情悲剧为主题,导演请她为控制的极限创作一段,几周后……就是大家在片中见到的。

30分钟前
  • 赱馬觀♣
  • 还行

And I suppose you believe that by eliminating me, you will eliminate control over some fucking artificial reality. 不是谋杀的杀手,用琴弦诛杀号称音乐与电影等艺术为毒药的“政客”?用绿色的火柴和双份浓缩咖啡来表达极简而繁复的镜头语言。

32分钟前
  • Memento Mori
  • 推荐

杀手是从自己鼻孔里潜入堡垒刺杀比尔默瑞的……

34分钟前
  • 皮革业
  • 还行

3.5/5。装逼的极限。杀手鼻孔君是《鬼狗杀手》的配角,面瘫,练气功,喜吃纸,很可能是阳痿。

39分钟前
  • Don't Panic!
  • 推荐

贾木许是不是相当喜欢拍这样多语言的电影?一个漫画感十足的黑人,两杯等待的咖啡,一些戴墨镜的家伙,红绿火柴盒的信息传递,以及一个注定要被意念诛杀的Bill Murray, BM在僵尸之地中客串的也不错。红绿火柴盒其实就跟黑客帝国里的那俩药丸一样。这电影给我的感觉相当神棍。

44分钟前
  • 恶魔的步调
  • 推荐

多么好看的一部贾木许电影啊,我简直快要晕厥了!对于迷恋贾木许的淫来说,这简直太好懂太直白了,沉浸在自身幻想中的骚逼,都直接去谋杀某种现实了,囧。但片子整个就是好看啊好看!

47分钟前
  • 小老鼠
  • 力荐

我觉得副题可以叫做 文艺青年意淫记 现实中的主角肯定是一白人、以为自己很文艺,老去798看画,迷恋中国功夫实则手无缚鸡之力,未婚爱看毛片,愤青,生活很不规律,不会说西班牙语,没吃过纸,其实觉得咖啡很难喝但是每天都强迫自己喝以显示品味。。。总之和电影反着理解就行了 哈哈

52分钟前
  • 琧婯
  • 推荐

吃太多纸鼻孔会变大

53分钟前
  • 陈发发
  • 还行

如果老贾能将片子的节奏X4,那么会有更多的人挑大拇哥,不过对于失眠,夜间思考动物们来说,这片儿绝了~

57分钟前
  • kingkongofkhan
  • 还行

这是贾木许向科波拉的《没有青春的青春》回应的作品么?庄子学说?除了后摇的音乐和杜可风完美的风光片摄影,整部电影皆是虚妄,我也像杀手一样控制住了自我的极限~

58分钟前
  • 大奇特(Grinch)
  • 很差

贾木许的杀手片,跟大伙的都不一样。西部片死人已阅,差个武士片鬼狗

1小时前
  • 衫弃
  • 很差

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